>>Though it might be worth seeing if other people would be willing to sign off on pro-bird initiatives!<<
Absolutely. Many people like birds.
>> There were a few people who'd previously complained about birdseed hulls "looking dirty" under the trees,<<
Some people need to get a life.
Also, one could just as easily say "bird feeders in back yards where others don't have to look at them" or "birdfeeders must be kept clean."
I'm kinda wondering how they got close enough to someone else's birdfeeder to see shells that are 1/4" long. :/ Creepy.
>> but there are likely people on the other side who are happy to have birds around! <<
Especially if you talk about the health and property value and other benefits.
Make the anti-bird crowd defend their choice to cost people health and money.
>>Our city does mostly have pretty good climate initiatives, though there've been a few points of contention. (They agree to plant x number of new trees per year! ...But cut down a ton of well-established ones for no clear reasons.) <<
Planting trees only counts if they increase the total number. In fact some places cut down trees to get incentives for planting new ones. So, organizations overseeing tree-planting efforts are catching onto that and putting in restrictions that block it, like limiting the number of trees that can be cut and/or subtracting cut trees from planted trees.
>>So frustrating when people largely make bad decisions on what they do with their land. <<
It's worse when people make decisions about other people's land, because that removes flexibility to find solutions. This is a leading problem in zoning, which is a key reason behind the housing crisis. People didn't like pretty much all the affordable housing options, so banned or limited them, and now they're whining about homeless people and high prices. *shrug* They got themselves into it.
>>the people who moved here to buy a million-dollar huge house on a tiny lot, who want all the animals (both wild and domestic) gone <<
That is all but impossible to achieve, and in fact, a terrible impact on human health if managed. Humans are more healthy the more nature they have. Nature deficit disorder does ruinous things.
>>But uuuuugh, the poorly-farmed topsoil just blowing away reminds me of the more rural area I went to college in. That was a FREQUENT issue up there.<<
For a while people did better, but now they are mostly doing dumb things again.
Re: Welcome!
Absolutely. Many people like birds.
>> There were a few people who'd previously complained about birdseed hulls "looking dirty" under the trees,<<
Some people need to get a life.
Also, one could just as easily say "bird feeders in back yards where others don't have to look at them" or "birdfeeders must be kept clean."
I'm kinda wondering how they got close enough to someone else's birdfeeder to see shells that are 1/4" long. :/ Creepy.
>> but there are likely people on the other side who are happy to have birds around! <<
Especially if you talk about the health and property value and other benefits.
Make the anti-bird crowd defend their choice to cost people health and money.
>>Our city does mostly have pretty good climate initiatives, though there've been a few points of contention. (They agree to plant x number of new trees per year! ...But cut down a ton of well-established ones for no clear reasons.) <<
Planting trees only counts if they increase the total number. In fact some places cut down trees to get incentives for planting new ones. So, organizations overseeing tree-planting efforts are catching onto that and putting in restrictions that block it, like limiting the number of trees that can be cut and/or subtracting cut trees from planted trees.
>>So frustrating when people largely make bad decisions on what they do with their land. <<
It's worse when people make decisions about other people's land, because that removes flexibility to find solutions. This is a leading problem in zoning, which is a key reason behind the housing crisis. People didn't like pretty much all the affordable housing options, so banned or limited them, and now they're whining about homeless people and high prices. *shrug* They got themselves into it.
>>the people who moved here to buy a million-dollar huge house on a tiny lot, who want all the animals (both wild and domestic) gone <<
That is all but impossible to achieve, and in fact, a terrible impact on human health if managed. Humans are more healthy the more nature they have. Nature deficit disorder does ruinous things.
>>But uuuuugh, the poorly-farmed topsoil just blowing away reminds me of the more rural area I went to college in. That was a FREQUENT issue up there.<<
For a while people did better, but now they are mostly doing dumb things again.